Our "New to Us" Winnie

[T1 Terry]

re, then the labour of pulling it apart and putting it back together.....

Yea, I know. I was dreading doing mine. But in the end, it was one of the easiest jobs to do.

Keep in mind, the Winnie has disc brakes, wheel speed sensors for the ABS, so not just dropping the drum/hub/wheel as a unit and sliding it out on a greasy plate, then off with the backing plate and you are ready to do battle ..... I haven't even figured out how to get the wheels off yet

I spent an hr wrecking a chrome dress rim before I figured there were two of the chrome wheel nut covers that actually have nuts inside that hold the thing on The other side was much easier

That just exposed the wheel nuts are only 13/16th" or 21mm .... now I have to find an inch drive socket to fit my torque multiplier so I can get them loose ..... the 1/2" drive wasn't interested
I did find the vehicle wheel nut remover bar/tool thing, I had a bounce on the end of a piece of pipe trying my luck with that ...... it rolled around to beer o'clock about them ... I admitted defeat and retired to the seat under the ducted air con vent It is 7:40 and still 36*C ..... and it's Sunday ....

T1 Terry

[jon_d]

I'm teaching the boys about working on cars.

We're starting with, "there is an easy way and a hard way, so slow down and find the easy way".

Keep in mind, the Winnie has disc brakes, wheel speed sensors for the ABS,

That will make it easier.

Wheel off, calibre off, disc off hub, hub off. ... maybe not even take the hub off.

No need to disconnect hydraulics. No bleeding involved.

[BruceS]

21mm? Really?
How many of that size Terry?
Even my baby Isuzu has 41mm outers & 21 inners..

[jon_d]

Me reaming the axle eye to take a 10thou oversize pin. Reaming the axle was soft, reaming the new bushes was just hard work.

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[T1 Terry]

I'm teaching the boys about working on cars.

We're starting with, "there is an easy way and a hard way, so slow down and find the easy way".

Keep in mind, the Winnie has disc brakes, wheel speed sensors for the ABS,

That will make it easier.

Wheel off, calibre off, disc off hub, hub off. ... maybe not even take the hub off.

No need to disconnect hydraulics. No bleeding involved.

The easy way gets expensive, they charge big $$ to work on heavy vehicles these days

The whole disc/hub removal has the added complication of the wheel speed sensor, so there will be some time spent sussing out how the sensor comes out before anything else, and protecting the chopper plate if it's optical, or determining depth if it's a hall effect sensor ...... the whole brake pressure/distribution system is electronic/electrical and that's the last thing I need to upset .....

T1 Terry

[T1 Terry]

21mm? Really?
How many of that size Terry?
Even my baby Isuzu has 41mm outers & 21 inners..

8 nuts on studs long enough for the nuts the hold the dress in on to also screw on outside the dress rim ..... shocked me when I saw it, worked on heavy vehicles since I was 18yrs old, 10/1/2 tonne rigid with 21mm nuts is car size stuff .... but they are tight, I doubt I'd be able to get them loose with a 3/4" drive set, I was bouncing a total of 2 mtrs leverage and they wouldn't shift, I've ordered a 1" drive 21mm socket on EvilBay, they reckon it will arrive by 7 Jan .... they will come off then

T1 Terry

[T1 Terry]

Me reaming the axle eye to take a 10thou oversize pin. Reaming the axle was soft, reaming the new bushes was just hard work.

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Did you hire the reamer Jon? I'm hoping I won't have to ream the new bushes ..... but I probably will and I lost all my reamers in the workshop fire .... Maybe Gears and Cogs will rent me the required size .....


The axle eye should have been the hard material, the bronze bushes are soft, just keeping the reamer square is the challenge .....

Did the axle eye end up cleaning up to all fresh metal with the 10mm oversize?

T1 Terry

[jon_d]

I reamed the bushes at Adrian's place. And then he lent me the reamer to do the axle eye. 10thou Terry, not 10mm.

Left hand threads? You've ruled that out? Easy way, hard way

[T1 Terry]

I reamed the bushes at Adrian's place. And then he lent me the reamer to do the axle eye. 10thou Terry, not 10mm.

Left hand threads? You've ruled that out? Easy way, hard way

10thou, too many numbers going through a very tired brain, yeah, even did the fingernail in the thread trick to make sure the direction was going to run out toward the end of the stud ..... nut the nuts that screw on the two studs to hold the dress rim on are standard right hand thread ..... but I double check, I couldn't believe 21mm nuts could be that tight either .....

T1 Terry

[Greynomad]

Girt had dress trims with only two real nuts holding the trims on. Under that were the real wheel nuts which were a different size.
Took it to the local tyre shop and before I could point out the real nuts the apprentice had ripped three fake nuts off with the rattle gun. (He should have learned after the first one!)
NOT HAPPY, JAN!
Tyre shop paid for replacement… which only came in sets of two — so I had a spare!