Increasing capacity of 20A solar regulator

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Re: Increasing capacity of 20A solar regulator

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Wow, THATs a lot of power, :o (jealous T1, wish I could fit it on my bus roof :lol: )
Tarbaby the MPPT regulators could do control switching but they are working on panels at 60 -odd volts, series wired. To SSR switch a 12v battery you would only want a few volts above maximum charge suiting that battery. Also my regs are cheapo Tracer units, no way to modify the algorithm.
Not saying it wouldn't work but .......

If/when we put on more panels they will all have to be re-wired to suit using SSR and Plasmatronics. OR control with a PLC / Arduino. Charging is not rocket science but its out of my pay/time capabilities.

Thermal stuff is a bit of a thing of mine, a barrow so to speak -we all need one :roll: . I dont ever expect that fan to work as so much heat will dissapate long before the thermostat kicks in. Its the quietest Jaycar 40mm available but still makes a strange hollow sound when sucking through that tube. Nice to have something as last-resort backup though.
All of my electronics are mounted with thought to thermal flow, the inverter and charger are both mounted VERTICALLY instead of the common flat-on-its-back-look. Its a little bit harder to achieve but proof is in the pudding, my el-cheapo 2500w PSW inverter fan comes on a lot less than it used to mounted this way. Check where your cooling fan is on any bit of electronic kit and mount said kit with fan UPPERMOST. Clean airflow MUST be available to the BOTTOM of the unit for cool air to access it. Natural convection will cool the electronics for a great deal of the work cycle and the fan should only activate during high loads.This theory also works well on fridges, leave the bottom open under the door, seal the sides and top at the front edge and vent at the upper rear. Check with incense smoke, amazing how much gets drawn though.

Using T1s mammoth example on page 2, when the SSRs blast that heatsink where does the heat go? Not straight into the poor Dingo? :o

To be frank I have played with water-cooled stuff a little as well, amazing how much heat a metre of 1/2" copper pipe full of water will pull away from the area. All depends on the layout of your rig of course, usually you gotta deal with what you got! :D
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Re: Increasing capacity of 20A solar regulator

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Water is a brilliant cooling medium, pure water is the best, it will carry 3 times the heat energy of air, but a bugga to keep inside stuff within an electrical enclosure :lol: Water cooling is the preferred method for big inverters like those used in electric vehicles as they are dealing with hundreds of amps @ 720vdc, doesn't take much inefficiency to generate a lot of heat when you get up to those levels of power transfer.

No, the heat doesn't go into the Dingo, there is plastic conduit and a high top neutral link between the tunnel heat sink and the Dingo. The heat generated in the Dingo is almost none existent, it is only the control and handling milli amps with a heatsink designed to handle up to 40 amps, 20 amps of solar and 20 amps of load.

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Re: Increasing capacity of 20A solar regulator

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T1 Terry wrote:
but a bugga to keep inside stuff within an electrical enclosure :lol:

T1 Terry
Ha, yeah, they don't play well together!

vertical bits mounted. Lucky to have some 16mm LDPE lying about as fancy-arse backboard.
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Re: Increasing capacity of 20A solar regulator

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bagmaker wrote:
T1 Terry wrote:
but a bugga to keep inside stuff within an electrical enclosure :lol:

T1 Terry
Ha, yeah, they don't play well together!

vertical bits mounted. Lucky to have some 16mm LDPE lying about as fancy-arse backboard.
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Getting the airflow to match the fan is the tricky bit, I often remove the fan and refit it the other way around so the air flows the correct way to match the convection flow. The fan at least has an arrow on the body so air flow direction can be identified :D
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