Thought for Today

[Greynomad]

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[Greynomad]

You know that moment when the steak is on the BBQ, sizzling away, and your mouth starts to water…

Do vegans have the same reaction when mowing the lawn?

[native pepper]

A really good thought for today and it gets you off medication, but the sign is a well thought out good laugh.

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/05/15/heal ... index.html

"Eating a vegan, vegetarian or lacto-ovo vegetarian diet significantly reduces the overall risk of developing cancer, heart disease and dying early from cardiovascular disease, according to a new “umbrella” analysis of more than 20 years of research.

An umbrella review looks at existing metanalyses of large numbers of studies, providing a high-level view of existing research on a topic.

In addition to lowering cardiovascular risk factors such as blood pressure and cholesterol, the umbrella analysis found a “protective effect” for specific cancers, including “liver, colon, pancreas, lung, prostate, bladder, melanoma, kidney and non-Hodgkin lymphoma,” said lead author Dr. Angelo Capodici, a graduate student in health science, technology and management at Scuola Superiore Sant’Anna in Pisa, Italy."

[Dot]

who were the taste testers??

[T1 Terry]

Eating a Vegan .... hmmm.... best leave that one alone me thinks

How do you know someone is a vegan?

They will tell you within 5 mins of meeting them

I quite enjoy a vegetarian diet, as long as it's served with slab of red meat that still has the blood running when you cut it

T1 Terry

[Dot]

I thought a Vegan and a Vegetarian were different?? Have no idea what's what and who's who/what ??

[T1 Terry]

I thought a Vegan and a Vegetarian were different?? Have no idea what's what and who's who/what ??

I think a vegetarian doesn't eat meat, but meat products are ok, like diary, eggs and fish is ok as long as they aren't the top of the food chain predator fish that only eat other fish.

A vegan doesn't eat any meat products at all

Then there is the extreme version where they don't wear leather belts or shoes, Akubra hats, feather or down lined coats or wool or fur, anything animal at all.

T1 Terry

[supersparky]

NP, I did take the time to read that article that you linked to and it's off shoot articles. I think it cherry picks a bit, but most news articles do these days anyway.
I believe that the biggest dietary issue that we face is processed foods. Unfortunately that includes wheat.
Soft drinks and fast foods are the big challenge to avoid, if you want to eat healthy. I enjoy lean red meat and fish, have yet to find a meat substitute that isn't full of over processed junk that is added to try to make it taste like meat.
Fresh is best, has worked for me for a long while now.
Trouble is, I venture off the path every now and then through necessity usually.

[native pepper]

I thought a Vegan and a Vegetarian were different?? Have no idea what's what and who's who/what ??

Like most things Dot there are fads and labels which we have to find our way through. I ate a lot of meat products and other junk until my late 20's, then over a couple of years weaned myself of meat and then diaries. It took another couple of years to remove processed foods from my diet, you can't just dump everything all at once but have to do it so your body and mind adapt. Of course there are times when a health diagnosis forces us to change dramatically and for me it was after undergoing chemo and radiation, luckily at the same time came across a knowledgable person who advised and helped me understand what had to be done to give my body a chance to get over my condition. To help it work isolated myself from society in the snowies and that's where I found music and after a year long struggle finally began to come good, much to the surprise of the medical profession. To me other than dietary change, psychological change is extremely important and had to re-program my mind to think differently and categorise foods in line with the known medical science at the time. Which was not very evolved and every quack I spoke to denounced my approach, even when they saw the results.

Don't categorise myself as vegan, just a healthy food eater and at times have things like oysters, fish and organic chicken, but only a couple of times a year if that. Have to admit when I do, sometime regret to because of the effect it has and slows me down for days, except oysters and only have them rarely. So deep in my mind there's still an inkling or attachment to the past.

Today we have a trendy class who claim to be vegan, but they eat meat substitutes and other junk food and those meat substitutes are worse than eating meat. Then we have to categorise the different meats, which have different effects on our bodies. Red or bovine meat is the worst meat you can eat, followed by their diaries. Lamb is much better, but native meats are even better, but should only be occasionally comsumed. Indigenous people, as well as indigenous dogs had diets which were over 80% vegetables and drawing and photos of them reveal fit healthy slim muscular people. Look at many of them today, obese, sick, addicted to grog, smokes and junk food that's destroying them. That's a wonderful example of what modern diets do to bodies that once were healthy and long lived, they struggle to get pat 50 or 60 most of them and it's the same worldwide with indigenous peoples. Which is reflected in the wide community.

Today we know so much about diet and nutrition and have access to a huge range of food products that allow us to eat healthily and tastefully. I eat a lot of beans and there is a huge variety, Black, Navi and Flava beans are what I enjoy best as do my dogs, but for the dogs have to put the cooked beans in the blender or they come out still whole and the dogs love them. they are an amazing form of real protein as are most legumes. I make a mean bean pizza and as for wheat, grind organic wheat myself which only have in bread and pastries, which again are rare. Alcohol, haven't had any for well over a year and before that once or twice when meeting up with muso friends and jamming, but even just that once or twice a year had a detrimental effect on me which hadn't noticed until the pandemic and didn't drink anything for 2 years. but did love getting driuk with friends occasionally.

David, in life everyone has a different dietary need, animal meats may be ok for a growing body when young, but as we age our bodies don't require the same nutritional foods and dairies are a toxic poison for our bodies. That's why in my opinion, we suffer from more disease and ailments, when if we adjust our diets to suit our ages, we can have very healthy enjoyable lives until we fall off the perch. To me it all depends on how important good health is to you and how mentally strong you are and if you sit back and think about it, the drugs they prescribe for most ailments, really don't do anything for the condition, just mask the symptoms for a short time. Over the years just about everyone I've come in contact with that knows my doit laughs, makes fun of it and blusters about how they love the crap they eat. They are all dead, or seriously ill, on medication and heavily restricted in what they can do physically, so I don't address them at all and leave them to their misery. No amount of belittling of blustering about how cool they are makes any difference to the amount of pain and suffering they are undergoing. To me they are weak people. totally controlled by the propaganda they are fed and are welcome to their plight. But those recognising their situation researching and actually doing something about it, I admire greatly, as it takes great strength to buck the system and walk a path few venture on.

[Greynomad]

If Vegetarians and Vegans abhor meat so much, why are there so many Veg products on supermarket shelves trying to taste like meat?