WTF

[Vik351]

Fact or fiction

https://youtube.com/shorts/yGDkiUAwxRs?feature=share

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[supersparky]

Vik, of course it's true. Everything on the internet is 100% fact. You should have seen some of the stuff the GoBs on the old CM#A used to try and debunk lithium.
Just remember though, you will be using LiFePo4 not some of that other variants of Lithium that possibly may be unstable.

[Vik351]

Vik, of course it's true. Everything on the internet is 100% fact. You should have seen some of the stuff the GoBs on the old CM#A used to try and debunk lithium.
Just remember though, you will be using LiFePo4 not some of that other variants of Lithium that possibly may be unstable.

So when I wet the bed and it drips on to em I will still be ok ...??? Cos my layout has the Litho jobs under me bed ...

Or put a roof ,gutter and down pipe over em ...

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[supersparky]

Vik, ya gotta keep the terminals dry and clean,and away from the dust. Otherwise......
If you can pee the bed so well that it drips onto the batts, you must be drinking too much.

[Vik351]

Yea, nah ... wiff two mutts on top of ya it's just too hard gettin outa bed ... !!!

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[Dot]

get your self some uridomes..

[RobertNotBob]

My lithium is under my seat and I worry after good curry and a few farts what is going to happen.

[Vik351]

My lithium is under my seat and I worry after good curry and a few farts what is going to happen.

Prolly the wet ones that slip through are the ones to worry about ...

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[T1 Terry]

It's funny what some people will try on to make a bit of B/S look real.
First part, what he pulls out of the cell doesn't look anything like the roll of foil he folds up and throws in the water?
Second part, when was the last time you saw water burn like that? If it actually created enough heat to split the water into hydrogen and oxygen, the two gases that are generated by lead acid batteries when they are charged or discharged, then there would be a kaboom type very rapid explosion, not a fire.

Now to actually drill down into the B/S being pushed here, how would the water get into the battery in the first place? Next, if it could saturate the lithium impregnated aluminium foil layer like it did in the dish of water(?) where would the oxygen come from to support the fire?

The reality of the whole think. If you over heat this type of lithium chemistry cell, it will generate its own oxygen and most definitely explode. The over heating is caused by boiling the electrolyte by either over voltage charging or over discharging this type of lithium chemistry cell. You may have seen the fire recuse on the news and it being blamed on charging an electric scooter down stairs. Very likely the fact, these cheap imports do not have a proper battery management system that stops the charging if a cell goes high voltage or very low voltage, the cell actually explodes and the heat starts the fire .....I've posted this before, but a real time example of what happens when you skip most of the procedure involved in lithium safety https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mi5cQzenJZk

The next reality check is we don't use this lithium chemistry in our batteries for this reason, Tesla has realised the same thing and is changing to the same chemistry as we use ... Lithium Ferrous Phosphate. This chemistry does not generate oxygen when it overheats. The heat generation is caused by the same over voltage/under voltage, but they vent their electrolyte as a vapour, like a cloud of white smoke. A lot of uninformed talking heads claim they are seeing the smoke from a fire, the vapour is flammable, much like the white smoke that pours out of a diesel exhaust when it hasn't reached operating temp, a diesel heater running on neat diesel in very could weather does the same thing. There is as much likelihood of the white smoke pouring out of a diesel heater exhaust bursting into flame as there is the vapour from a cooked LFP cell. It will light if you try hard enough, the diesel heater fumes will make a fireball, the LFP electrolyte vapour will burn if you try hard enough, but generally it settles out as droplets before it evaporates completely .... smells sort of sickly sweet, but that's it, not even poisonous, but you wouldn't choose to breath much in because the smell is so sickly.
A drop in lithium battery even if it is using LFP cells, will actually hold this vapour inside until the pressure breaks the case, then a real cloud pours out. It is the death of the cell/s however, they can't function without the electrolyte.

Hope that helps to clear a bit of the mud these idiots try to throw around.

T1 Terry

[Vik351]

So I can keep pissin then ...

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