Thought for Today

[native pepper]

Like many things, lots of vegetarians are just part of a fad so they can be part of the in crowd, the real vegan does it for their health. Lacto/ovarian vegetarians are like agnostics, they want better health, but want to keep their foot in the door of what's claimed as normalcy and over time their approach doesn't help much at all. Dairies are the cause of many ailments and disease, in lots of cases much more than eating red meat.

The radicals that don't wear leather etc, are like all radicals, they don't understand their approach is probably worse for the environment and their life than non vegetarians. Synthetic goods including shoes, come from fossil oils, as does our pharmaceuticals and most goods of today. I try to steer away from synthetic things but bit hard, although we could change to plant based synthetics which would solve many problems in our societies.

[Shirley]

Native pepper, agree with fad diets, I have diagnosed celiac disease & lactose intolerance it appears cool today for people to claim to be gluten free & claim to follow a gluten free diet

[T1 Terry]

A word of warning to share with anyone thinking of starting a gluten free diet because it's trendy, not for genuine medical reasons. Cutting all gluten from a diet will kill all the essential "goodies" in the gut that enable a person to digest gluten, resulting in someone who didn't have celiac (gluten intolerance) to become gluten intolerant with no real path to reversing the problem they created.

Veganism will cause a similar problem, no meat at all and the "goodies" in the gut die and meat can no longer be digested. Eating meat then results in major digestive problems.

Not drinking alcohol results in the loss of alcohol tolerance, the next drinking session turns out to be an absolute blinder

Smoking weed or using cannabis oil has a similar but more dramatic result. The body builds receptors for the THC the first time it is introduced to the system. Without these receptors, the THC has no real affect, resulting in first time users questioning just what the "hit" is all about, they feel nothing. The worst thing one can do on that first "session" is keep smoking more looking for the "hit". The more you smoke, the more receptors are generated. This results in the next and every subsequent "session" making you appear a "light weight" because you get a big "hit" from a small amount. The body builds a sort of defence over time, but once it isn't required, it drops away, the first "session" after a long lay-off has that "light weight" affect on a previously "seasoned" smoker ... a real laugh to watch, they remember their previous tolerance and get really "bent"

T1 Terry

[native pepper]

Terry, it's a well known medical science fact that a meat diet kills all the good bacteria in the gut and plant based diets which provide roughage creating the right environment for good gut bacteria. Medical science also states red meat is a known cause of cancer and processed meats, even more so.

As for non gluten fads didn't know there was one, but many people suffer gluten intolerance, luckily I'm not one and enjoy my bread and the pastries I make, but to much and it does effect me a bit. When I'm travelling go without bread and pastries for weeks and have no problems digesting it when home again, so don't know where you got that idea, but would be interested in a link to the claim.

As for alcohol, again a known contributor to liver, kidney and stomach cancer and when you add the processed foods that normally go with it, it's no wonder so many people have so many health problems. I enjoy a great boutique beer every now and then, but it takes a while to get over that enjoyment as I age and haven't had any for well over a year.

As for cannabis, there are many people who have found it to be excellent for pain relief with no withdrawals or side effects, in fact cannabis is one of the most beneficial plants known, as it provide many products and benefits. Have a number of friends who use cannabis for their health problems and swear by it, I've used it myself to cope with the adhesions I get from having the bottom lobe of my right lung removed and the remainder stuck to the chest wall. At times this creates a Pleurisy which is rather painful and restrictive, but cannabis oil or a piece of cannabis biscuit clears it up fast and can function normally and do have a cannabis oil prescription and did use dope many decades ago quite a bit. Never had a bad effect or a withdrawal, in fact never noticed any adverse reaction when not using it and never known anyone else to have a bad reaction to using or stopping using it.

It's the reality of our lives which determine our veracity in life, no amount of negativity towards good healthy plant based diet can or will change the reality of what our health really is. After 50 years on this diet, compared to those around me, I know what works and what doesn't and to me that's all that counts. Couldn't care less what others eat, that's their business but they are entitled to know the truth and not just the profit growth propaganda, without being bombarded by it and just about everyone I know, eats a normal diet, takes some form of medication and suffers, I don't.

They can make up their minds as to whether they are going to take control of their health, or continue with their current approach and in just about all cases, the current approach isn't getting them better, just covering the symptoms until the problem is to great to cover up. It makes no difference to my friendship with them and never mention anything about diet unless asked or it's brought up in a conversation and asked my opinion. Even then try not to get involved and even attend BBQ's at times and enjoy those times, as friendship is much better than total isolation. I'm the secretary of our local gun club and organise BBQ's all the time for members as that's what they want, so happy to oblige.

I don't look negatively at other people because of their diets, can't see why others should look negatively at mine. As the old saying goes, people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

[Newcastle George]

So much for a thought for today.

George

[T1 Terry]

If meat wasn't good for us, why did The Great Spaghetti Monster make us top of the food chain? He wouldn't have handed down that great epistle, spaghetti bolognaise

T1 Terry

[Shirley]

Just googled Terry’s claim re not eating gluten causing Celiac disease, definitely not true, very interesting read, I developed Celiac disease as an adult, I had eaten gluten all my life.

[supersparky]

So much for a thought for today.

George

My thought for today, would be that's it might be a good idea for one of the mods to separate this diet discussion and put it on its own thread.

[T1 Terry]

So much for a thought for today.

George

My thought for today, would be that's it might be a good idea for one of the mods to separate this diet discussion and put it on its own thread.

Did I hear you were volunteering for a job Dave

T1 Terry

[supersparky]

Well, if I knew how to, I would have done so the other day.
As you well know Terry, sometimes things just kinda get unintentionally hijacked. It just how forums work.
At least people can have a discussion about things here, without fear of the whole thread or post just vaporising into thin air.