Ukraine and why it matters to the free world.

[Keith Morris]

For those who ask: “Why does Ukraine matter? “

This is why Ukraine matters.

It is the second largest country by area in Europe and has a population of over 40 million - more than Poland.
to compare--- (Australia has a population of around 25 million or there about without the latest imports)

Ukraine ranks:
1st in Europe in proven recoverable reserves of uranium ores.
2nd place in Europe and 10th place in the world in terms of titanium ore reserves.
2nd place in the world in terms of explored reserves of manganese ores (2.3 billion tons, or 12% of the world's reserves);
2nd largest iron ore reserves in the world (30 billion tons);
2nd place in Europe in terms of mercury ore reserves;
3rd place in Europe (13th place in the world) in shale gas reserves (22 trillion cubic meters)
4th in the world by the total value of natural resources;
7th place in the world in coal reserves (33.9 billion tons)

Ukraine is an important agricultural country:
1st in Europe in terms of arable land area;
3rd place in the world by the area of black soil (25% of world's volume);
1st place in the world in exports of sunflower and sunflower oil;
2nd place in the world in barley production and 4th place in barley exports;
3rd largest producer and 4th largest exporter of corn in the world;
4th largest producer of potatoes in the world;
5th largest rye producer in the world;
5th place in the world in bee production (75,000 tons);
8th place in the world in wheat exports;
9th place in the world in the production of chicken eggs;
16th place in the world in cheese exports.
Ukraine can meet the food needs of 600 million people.

Ukraine is an important industrialised country:
1st in Europe in ammonia production;
Europe's 2nd’s and the world’s 4th largest natural gas pipeline system;
3rd largest in Europe and 8th largest in the world in terms of installed capacity of nuclear power plants;
3rd place in Europe and 11th in the world in terms of rail network length (21,700 km);
3rd place in the world (after the U.S. and France) in production of locators and locating equipment;
3rd largest iron exporter in the world
4th largest exporter of turbines for nuclear power plants in the world;
4th world's largest manufacturer of rocket launchers;
4th place in the world in clay exports
4th place in the world in titanium exports
8th place in the world in exports of ores and concentrates;
9th place in the world in exports of defence industry products;
10th largest steel producer in the world (32.4 million tons).

Ukraine matters. That is why its independence is important to the rest of the world.

[Dot]

Jeeeze Prof Tanks that took some reading let alone you are typing all that. Sure is interesting.

[T1 Terry]

I guess what the reality of it all is, what govts want the authorities to favour when determining exports and outside partnerships in future projects.
It is very clear from that list just why Russia wants control of the Ukraine, that is a lot of very valuable resources in both $$ terms and the ability to keep up with technology. Without having their own resources, any trade bans would really hurt the country as a whole

T1 Terry

[T1 Terry]

Seems this might be an item to watch carefully with the change of presidents in the USA.

T1 Terry

[supersparky]

Seems this might be an item to watch carefully with the change of presidents in the USA.

T1 Terry

Yes Terry, I believe you are correct. Time will surely tell.

[native pepper]

Keith, that's a great summary of Ukraine, wasn't aware of all that, but does make you think and realise now why Putin wants Ukraine.

Ukraine also has large stocks of enriched uranium, which they are now saying they will turn into small nukes if Nato the USA and others don't support them better, they have the ability and technical know how. They are also at the forefront of drone development, advanced military technology and weapons. One of their new inventions is an autonomous mounted or self mobile 7.62 machine gun which can be operated from a distance to protect the users.

Putin has make a massive mistake in invading Ukraine, what he's done is wake up a very powerful foe, one who is fast becoming a major military power and at the present rate, will defeat Russia. I reckon Ukraine is already well on the way to producing 100's of nukes as they already have the facilities and expertise seeing as they have previously had the largest number of nukes and who knows, maybe they still have some hidden away in their many underground bunkers and manufacturing facilities.

[Greynomad]

The nuclear industry is well advanced in Ukraine, thanks to Russia’s decision to locate their biggest nuclear power plant at Chernobyl…
Just a pity it went pop.
But the Ukrainians still have the support infrastructure.
That could very well bode ill for Putin.

[T1 Terry]

Keith, that's a great summary of Ukraine, wasn't aware of all that, but does make you think and realise now why Putin wants Ukraine.

Ukraine also has large stocks of enriched uranium, which they are now saying they will turn into small nukes if Nato the USA and others don't support them better, they have the ability and technical know how. They are also at the forefront of drone development, advanced military technology and weapons. One of their new inventions is an autonomous mounted or self mobile 7.62 machine gun which can be operated from a distance to protect the users.

Putin has make a massive mistake in invading Ukraine, what he's done is wake up a very powerful foe, one who is fast becoming a major military power and at the present rate, will defeat Russia. I reckon Ukraine is already well on the way to producing 100's of nukes as they already have the facilities and expertise seeing as they have previously had the largest number of nukes and who knows, maybe they still have some hidden away in their many underground bunkers and manufacturing facilities.

Miniature warheads on drones, designed to create electromagnetic pulses, while others are intended to hit strategic targets .... China knows what is coming, they are working on safeguarding he communications networks to protect against such attacks, Putin still thinks you can poison your way to total control, I'm not sure if the USA is thinking much at all Well, besides looking for some where to move to if you have the $$

T1 Terry

[native pepper]

Keith, that's a great summary of Ukraine, wasn't aware of all that, but does make you think and realise now why Putin wants Ukraine.

Ukraine also has large stocks of enriched uranium, which they are now saying they will turn into small nukes if Nato the USA and others don't support them better, they have the ability and technical know how. They are also at the forefront of drone development, advanced military technology and weapons. One of their new inventions is an autonomous mounted or self mobile 7.62 machine gun which can be operated from a distance to protect the users.

Putin has make a massive mistake in invading Ukraine, what he's done is wake up a very powerful foe, one who is fast becoming a major military power and at the present rate, will defeat Russia. I reckon Ukraine is already well on the way to producing 100's of nukes as they already have the facilities and expertise seeing as they have previously had the largest number of nukes and who knows, maybe they still have some hidden away in their many underground bunkers and manufacturing facilities.

Miniature warheads on drones, designed to create electromagnetic pulses, while others are intended to hit strategic targets .... China knows what is coming, they are working on safeguarding he communications networks to protect against such attacks, Putin still thinks you can poison your way to total control, I'm not sure if the USA is thinking much at all Well, besides looking for some where to move to if you have the $$

T1 Terry

The USA has given Ukraine permission to use USA missiles to strike deep into Russia, so we may see a huge escalation very soon as Ukraine hits many military and industrial defence facilities. I watched a youtube video today called "Day: 998 Ukraine map", which comes out around every 2 days and gives up dates on what's happening and russia is suffering massive loses of men and equipment. Ukraine is already striking deep into Russia with its drones and being able to use very advanced missiles may make a huge difference.

As for the USA, it looks like when trump steps in there will be a huge upheaval as most of those he's chosen to run the country have to be passed by congress and it looks like almost none of them have the knowledge or experience to do the job. The world is fast spiralling into chaos and confusion, simple because the deluded ideological dreams of humanity are collapsing under the weight or reality. Interesting times ahead that's for sure and don't think we are going to come out of it unscathed, our wonderful political parties are seeing to that. They are so intelligent, everything they do turns to disaster, because ideological delusions can never become reality and that's been proved throughout history, but humans are to stupid to realise their fantasy approaches to life are actually destroying them.

[Noggins]

The post by Tanks on Ukraine is very informative.

But I'm sad to see that it has become a Political Football and the Trumph Tumph drum is being beaten again.
If I was still on Admin I would have shut down this subject and advised the participants to please keep their political views to themselves and off this Forum.

I agree we all have our political views, but if politics is allowed here on this forum, wait until I get into Religion.
There is a very good reason both are banned on the mess decks, mainly because it makes a mess whenever either ugly head is raised.


Ron