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Hi Bruce
Any of the people giving quotes elaborate on having to participate in the power sharing part with energy company to get Government rebates ?
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Good question Eddy!
All of the 4 companies made it clear that the VPP part of it should be available but doesn't need to be activated.
As for Grid connected, it doesn't need to be to get the rebate IF a certain distance from the grid or it would cost (from memory) over $30,000 to get connected to it. This would suit outback stations or isolated properties.
So a lot of requirements have been relaxed but I'd want it in writing.
Any one thinking of just throwing a battery in needs to ensure they have a hybrid inverter although I did see one system that didn't require it.
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Some interesting reading regarding VPP (Virtual Power Plant) https://www.solarchoice.net.au/solar-batteries/vpp/ The lack of payment transparency, the added battery stress by being cycled by the energy provider charging the battery while there is excess available and power is cheap, then using that stored power from your battery when energy costs are high .... but not paying you at that higher rate and no assurity there will be anything there if a power outage occurs.
There is no demand that you sign up to a VPP, but if your system is capable, there doesn't seem to be any assurance that they won't use your battery without your consent or without you even knowing it happened ......

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Just watched this You Tube video about CATL sodium ion battery production ..... and it is going to seriously change the whole energy storage industry for grid, home and vehicle battery selection ......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MkMgwf2lAs
This isn't something new in a lab that will never see the light of day, this is the second generation end product .... well worth watching and following any links to these batteries and maybe CATL as well, they are certainly going to shake up the industry

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This one is from 2021, the rate of change just between this doco and what we are doing now is mind bending https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEUfhSgbbE0
There is no mention of geo thermal, solar thermal, wave pumping and thermal transfer turbines, where the hot ground surface air is directed up a large thermal stack, similar to the cooling towers seen at the old coal turbine station, but much taller, venting the very hot air up into the colder air stream and putting a turbine blade in that airflow .....

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