Anyone have thoughts on this type of air con???
Saw it on evilbay...
SOLAR AIR-CONDITIONER - Wall Mounted Single Head Hybrid Thermal Split - 3.5KV
AU $429.00
Solar air con??
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Re: Solar air con??
From this ebay listing
This is a very rough and mud map attempt at explaining how compressor type cooling happens. The whole principle of compressor type air conditioning involves the gas being compressed to a high pressure, then cooled through the condenser to change state from a gas to a liquid but still under the same pressure, this change of state requires heat energy to be released. The thermal expansion valve (also known as a TX valve) controls the rate of flow of this liquid into the evaporator and into a lower pressure section of the system, the TX valve separates the 2 halves, the liquid desperately needs to return to its natural state as a gas at any temp above its boiling point at this reduced pressure, so it absorbs as much heat from the air flowing through the evaporator as it can get until the air cools and therefore the evaporator cools to the boiling point of the gas, by then the TX valve would have closed so no more liquid could flow in so the change of state would continue to occur. The liquid has now returned to a gas and is drawn into the compressor. The compressor creates the difference between the high pressure side and the low pressure side.
Can anyone see any where within this circuit that more added heat energy would reduce the energy required to make it operate? I'd love to hear how this is achieved because I love to learn new stuff. This is a compressor refrigerant system, not a 3 way fridge type cooling system known as absorption cooling https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absorption_refrigerator and is an extremely inefficient cooling method, even more so compared to inverter technology compressor systems using HC (hydrocarbon) refrigerate
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But how do Solar Thermal Hybrid Air Conditioners do this?
They absorb thermal solar energy by using a thermal collector with copper heat conducting inner coils. This then uses the stored energy in the solar collector to continue the refrigeration cycle while the compressor is off utilising a larger stored amount of refrigerant liquid in the condenser.
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Simply put, the hotter it gets, the more energy is collected in the thermal hybrid collector, the more efficient the system becomes.
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This is a very rough and mud map attempt at explaining how compressor type cooling happens. The whole principle of compressor type air conditioning involves the gas being compressed to a high pressure, then cooled through the condenser to change state from a gas to a liquid but still under the same pressure, this change of state requires heat energy to be released. The thermal expansion valve (also known as a TX valve) controls the rate of flow of this liquid into the evaporator and into a lower pressure section of the system, the TX valve separates the 2 halves, the liquid desperately needs to return to its natural state as a gas at any temp above its boiling point at this reduced pressure, so it absorbs as much heat from the air flowing through the evaporator as it can get until the air cools and therefore the evaporator cools to the boiling point of the gas, by then the TX valve would have closed so no more liquid could flow in so the change of state would continue to occur. The liquid has now returned to a gas and is drawn into the compressor. The compressor creates the difference between the high pressure side and the low pressure side.
Can anyone see any where within this circuit that more added heat energy would reduce the energy required to make it operate? I'd love to hear how this is achieved because I love to learn new stuff. This is a compressor refrigerant system, not a 3 way fridge type cooling system known as absorption cooling https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absorption_refrigerator and is an extremely inefficient cooling method, even more so compared to inverter technology compressor systems using HC (hydrocarbon) refrigerate
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Re: Solar air con??
Now that tells me not to even go near it 

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Re: Solar air con??
Looks great to me
Seems to be an Inverter split system with an input direct from solar (controller within unit)
Downside.....solar is dedicated to aircon unit.
Best just buy an inverter split system, and hook it up to an 12/240v inverter that can also supply other 240v demand.
That said, this is a cheap system and could be installed like any other split system ignoring the direct solar input.
Seems to be an Inverter split system with an input direct from solar (controller within unit)
Downside.....solar is dedicated to aircon unit.
Best just buy an inverter split system, and hook it up to an 12/240v inverter that can also supply other 240v demand.
That said, this is a cheap system and could be installed like any other split system ignoring the direct solar input.
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I guess you mean that they are directly feeding solar voltaic energy into the split system inverter, that does no seem to be the case JonJon and Kay wrote:Looks great to me
Seems to be an Inverter split system with an input direct from solar (controller within unit)
Downside.....solar is dedicated to aircon unit.
Best just buy an inverter split system, and hook it up to an 12/240v inverter that can also supply other 240v demand.
That said, this is a cheap system and could be installed like any other split system ignoring the direct solar input.
To me that says they further heat the gases after the compressor has shut down, how that helps has me beatThey absorb thermal solar energy by using a thermal collector with copper heat conducting inner coils. This then uses the stored energy in the solar collector to continue the refrigeration cycle while the compressor is off utilising a larger stored amount of refrigerant liquid in the condenser
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More info here http://solairworld.com/solar-air-conditioners#wmstac Terry
They seem to offer a complete range, including cassettes.
They seem to offer a complete range, including cassettes.
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