I have been reading about these batteries and they sound even better than the Lithium we have.
Anyone know anything about them ?
Ironcore batteries
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Re: Ironcore batteries
Yet another recycling of the Edison battery. The theory is great, the efficiency is terrible, the cycle life is indefinite, but much like grandfathers axe, at what stage of replacing parts is it no longer seen as the original battery or cell? Remember the old tar top lead acid battery, theoretically, its cycle life was indefinite because you could even swap all the contents into a new case ......
Reading through this http://www.ironcorebatteries.com.au/page6.php is about the best case of cherry picking bits of information I've even read, and that takes a lot of chery picking
Fancy using NMC as the base level for the lithium battery usability, how about LTO as the base line instead, 99.8% cycle efficiency, 100% of the advertised capacity can be used for 30,000 cycles or more (that's rough a cycle per day for 82 yrs, but no one has actually lived long enough to say that is the end of life), yet still hold the required voltage the system was designed to operate within.
It's like saying a lead acid battery has 100Ah capacity, then in small print the conditions, max load is 5 amps and the end voltage is less than 10v from the original 12.8v when it was fully charged, what are you going to operate at 10v that requires a nom. 12v to operate?
The Redflow battery https://redflow.com/ is another one that rebirths an old idea that didn't work then, or in it's second rebirth. These cells must be fully discharged every 1 to 4 cycles (depending on the mini cycle rate) to strip the zinc back off the plates or it will over plate rendering the cell at end of life.
So you need two batteries, one to carry the load while the other is being discharged in to the load battery to strip the plates clean, all the time running the circulation pumps.
Then we come to weight and the suitability for mobile operation, lead base and lithium base are the only two available at the moment, there are a few combinations still in the lab stage that might prove themselves, yet to be seen.
The salt water battery designed by Professor Jaye Whitacre would be the best ultra recyclable battery as it is built from recycled material to begin with, it will be interesting to see if it recovers from the financial issues it suffered that collapsed the original venture https://www.greentechmedia.com/articles ... 0July%2021.. Again, this is a stationary battery, big and heavy, but efficient and basically simple in design .....
T1 Terry
Reading through this http://www.ironcorebatteries.com.au/page6.php is about the best case of cherry picking bits of information I've even read, and that takes a lot of chery picking
Fancy using NMC as the base level for the lithium battery usability, how about LTO as the base line instead, 99.8% cycle efficiency, 100% of the advertised capacity can be used for 30,000 cycles or more (that's rough a cycle per day for 82 yrs, but no one has actually lived long enough to say that is the end of life), yet still hold the required voltage the system was designed to operate within.
It's like saying a lead acid battery has 100Ah capacity, then in small print the conditions, max load is 5 amps and the end voltage is less than 10v from the original 12.8v when it was fully charged, what are you going to operate at 10v that requires a nom. 12v to operate?
The Redflow battery https://redflow.com/ is another one that rebirths an old idea that didn't work then, or in it's second rebirth. These cells must be fully discharged every 1 to 4 cycles (depending on the mini cycle rate) to strip the zinc back off the plates or it will over plate rendering the cell at end of life.
So you need two batteries, one to carry the load while the other is being discharged in to the load battery to strip the plates clean, all the time running the circulation pumps.
Then we come to weight and the suitability for mobile operation, lead base and lithium base are the only two available at the moment, there are a few combinations still in the lab stage that might prove themselves, yet to be seen.
The salt water battery designed by Professor Jaye Whitacre would be the best ultra recyclable battery as it is built from recycled material to begin with, it will be interesting to see if it recovers from the financial issues it suffered that collapsed the original venture https://www.greentechmedia.com/articles ... 0July%2021.. Again, this is a stationary battery, big and heavy, but efficient and basically simple in design .....
T1 Terry
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